I recently had a lesson and there was a fair bit of discussion in regards to actually counting the music. Like sets of 8, the natural pairing of measures is just in the count of the music. Rosa, it’s best for dancers to count waltz music in sets of 6. They’re easier and more accurate. While phrasing is not for newbies, I believe beginners who have had a few months of classes should begin to develop an ear for it. along, I can get this whole beat thing under control. Place the metronome on 60 beats per minute (BPM). Whether you dance, play guitar, do Zumba, run to music, or are just tired of being rhythmically challenged, you need to master the 8-count in music. Was I that detached from the music that no matter how many songs passed me by I couldn’t hear the structure that now screams at me? If I can hear, thematically, that I’m coming to the end of a sentence in the music, then I can feel when the next sentence will start. I got blasted on pace or the beat of the music. 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and). However I did go to some strictly Argentine Tango dances and I did well. The beat with more emphasis, however subtle that may be, is the 1. 8 counts keep track of the beat and tempo, but break up … I wanted to label this discussion on the musician’s measure as an Advanced Info Alert as it may be too much information. To the ear, the theme of a major phrase typically encompasses the smaller themes of the mini-phrases to create a larger theme, which tells the whole story—a complete musical thought. If a song stumps you, move on quickly, because you have to hear it in the easy pieces before you can hear it in the harder stuff. A mini-phrase, like a sentence of words, only tells part of the story. Most dances choreographed to 8 counts at a time, or two 4-count measures back to back. The point is to let them find freedom with the music. When I refer to “virtually all dance music,” it means all dance music except the waltz. A major phrase is a specific number of sets of 8 to create something like a chorus or verse. It’s remarkable that in seven years of dance lessons, nobody had done this demonstration for me before. If you listen closely to a set of 6 it will sound like a “sentence” of music with a beginning and an end. Ball Change. Your website, videos and insight have given me confidence that if I follow Let Us Record Your Voice Overs! First, you have to understand the components of rhythm. These two measures equal a total of 8 counts, which is why dancers count in sets of 8. For now, pay attention as your teacher counts you in to start a dance. Also, try to get feedback to make sure you’re doing it right. He emphasized each count 1 of the music, the first beat of each set of 8, by punching the air with his hand. Then start over. (Lingo Alert: Sometimes the word “count” is omitted and a count 1 is identified as “the 1 of the music” or just “the 1.”) Moreover, I could hear that the 1s were beginning points that signaled the beginning of something new in the melody. I suspected Skippy was involved, but wasn’t sure. (Arcane technical info: Musicians call it 12-bar blues, a bar being slang for a four-beat measure: 12 × 4 = 48.). Today, this method, feeling the music, is the primary way I connect to the sets of 8, and much of it is done subconsciously, without thinking. Musicians compose music half a pencil at a time, but their goal is to create a whole pencil. Do the 1s and 5s seem to have the same emphasis? . Also common is the 48-beat phrase, which can be described as “six sets of 8” and is considered standard phrasing for blues music. The 32-beat phrase is the most common but, unlike a mini-phrase that’s always a set of 8 beats (except waltz), major phrases will vary. It’s a workable system for dancers . Let me explain. Nope. For example, a group of mini-phrases can come together to form a chorus or verse, which is thematically complete. Growing up, I trained in all styles of dance and played a musical instrument, the piano. Also, work with someone. James- I am not a big dancer, but I am now trying RPM cycling classes to become You don’t even have to shadow dance; when you listen to music for fun just visualize choreography in your head and try to phrase it to the music. It’s still the same pencil, and you can write with it. Lastly, What is the Rumba anyways? http://www.newitt.freeserve.co.uk/Fisher/RHYTHM1.JPG, How to Develop Vibrato in Your Singing Voice, Differences Between R&B Music Vs. Hip-Hop Music, Copyright 2020 Leaf Group Ltd. All Rights Reserved. You reconcile it by “phrasing,” which I started to explain in the box at the end of this chapter (“Intro to Phrasing”). Any suggestions/insight would be appreciated. Loops I didn’t need. When you clap, you will hit the whole beats (i.e. You mention in info on phrasing that Skippy Blair was the originator of the term “mini phrase”. Some dance teachers count waltz in 3s. Sometimes the accent on the count 1 is an accented vocal, sometimes not. After you can hear the sets of 8 you should work on hearing the major phrases (see “phrasing” below and see the box above at the end of Chapter 2, “Advanced Info Alert: Intro to Phrasing”). Actually, measures are naturally paired. Practice Counting Rhythms. Even after I realized that sets of 8 existed, it took many, many months of listening and practicing and getting confirmation from others before I could hear the structure and it became second nature. And some teachers use musician lingo whenever they reference the musical count; that always threw me for a loop. Before you can learn to count music, it's important to understand that music is broken up into measures, which are musical units of time. A count 1 stands out because it typically has an emphasis or accent. If you are in an audition, the judge may ask you to sing the first 16 bars on a sheet of music that has been placed in front of you. Doing so reveals the structure of the music. In dance, a measure is usually “musically paired” with a second measure. The count 1 of any set of 8 is the best place to start a dance, because it feels like the beginning of something. Notice how everyone says it a bit differently, but the goal is always the same: everyone starts the song together, and plays at the same tempo. Unless you’re dancing to a waltz (sets of 6), I’m guessing that all the music you cycle to will be in sets of 8. Being rhythmically challenged is really a lack of education and training, not a lack of ability, so just keep counting sets of 8 whenever you hear music (working out, commuting, drifting off to sleep at night, etc). So, forget all the highfalutin-hieroglyphic-4/4-2/4-3/4-time-signature-mumbo-jumbo-music-theory you’ve been bulldozed with in the past. But once you get it, it’ll become second nature. That's why we're making a whole series of videos on our YouTube – to answer those questions that all beginner dancers have but never get to ask. Let’s say you’re dancing to music with 32-beat major phrases, which is four sets of 8 (4 X 8 = 32). If music gets too complicated or is the exception to the rule, it’s probably not the best music for social dancing. I couldn’t believe it would work for all songs—could it? Second, if I could hear the structure—if I could count sets of 8—I could confirm that I was on the beat. While tapping your foot is okay, the most effective way to train your body to feel the beat is marching in place, doing a weight change on every beat of music. While it took time before I could count sets of 8 on my own to a broad spectrum of music and test this earth-shattering hypothesis, he was right: All dance music, except waltz, shares a similar structure. This was sweet: I no longer had to annoy friends and accost strangers with pleas to help me with the beat. Please limit phrase to 2 8-counts. Hearing the count 1s and the sentence structure in the music is hard. If you have some sheet music, look for the time signature … Phrasing is important, because at the intermediate level and above you will dance to the major phrases. I could easily and proficiently count music, read music, and identify an upbeat or downbeat. Using your hands, clap for every beat and count to 4 repeatedly until you feel confident in keeping that rhythm. I thought that maybe it was a trick; perhaps he was the band’s manager or something. If you start another six beat step pattern, it will cross over and into the next major phrase. When the music … (If you want to take your musicality to the next level, listen for the major phrases, which for workout music will probably be four sets of 8, or 32 beats of music. To get started, spend time with a teacher or friend listening to a variety of music. Without getting too complicated: start a new step pattern on count 1 of the first set of 8 and finish a step pattern on count 8 of the last set of 8. If you have a hard time hearing the beat, plan on sticking with this exercise for many months, working both on your own and with occasional confirmation from others. Also, listen for the relative difference in emphasis on the count 1 and the count 5. Music is divided into 32-count phrases, which is perfect for an aerobic routine because you can string together movements that equal 32 counts. I’ll give you some options to finish the 32-beat phrase: 1) you could do an eight beat step pattern (24 + 8 = 32); 2) you could take eight beats and do a styling move, rhythm breaks or “play”; 3) you could extend a six beat pattern for two beats to make it eight beats long (eg, if you were doing an underarm turn, do an extra turn); 4) you could do another six beat step pattern and then play or kill time for two beats. Generally, a follower expects you to start on a 1 or a 5. When reading or playing music, it is necessary to be able to count the bars in a song. Then start a new step pattern on the count 1 of the next major phrase. I found the dancing ball video a bit of an effort to follow, although I guess it works. In order to marry this dance rhythm to the music, we typically count our steps in "Slows" (S) and "Quicks" (Q), where slow is worth 2 beats and quick is worth just 1 beat. Slow takes 1 beat and Quick is 1/2 beat. Especially for a non-musican. Nice job explaining counting. Counting rhythm can vary in difficulty because some songs are very syncopated or in strange meters, but in general, if you develop your basic counting skills of whole beats and "and" beats, you will be able to apply your knowledge to any piece of music and perform your dancing at a higher level. The beat of the music is established by the percussion instruments, like drums. Give them directions if you like: Dance small, tall, low, high, fast, slow, etc. Sets of 8, which identify the underlying beat and reflect the true structure of the music, are the foundation of counting music. When you have a regular rhythm of a particular value (i.e. It’s the same way a sentence gives structure to the written word, as you’ll see in a moment. Furthermore, these "and" beats correspond to transitional movements in dance. The order can be subtle—often very, very subtle—but it’s there, even if you can’t hear it. When trying to listen for a beat by ear, make sure you give … Practice counting basic note length by saying or … First, hearing the structure was a big step toward connecting to the music, which is what separates the poseur from the real dancer. You should also train your ear to hear things like breaks and accents as well as to get the feel of the music and begin to train your body to respond to these different elements of the music. The slow is 2 beats, while the quick is only 1 beat. While we want to hit our feet and "lines" on the beats, the dancing itself happens in between the beats. Jul 16, 2004 #1 Just how important is the ability to count the music? Really good article, thanks for sharing it! Sets of 8 are important to dancers for a number of reasons but most importantly because they identify and define the underlying beat of the music. Most pop songs are in 4/4 (“four – four”) time, and musicians group together every four beats as a “bar” or a “measure.” That translates easily into the dance world, where you guys consider every eight beats as an “8-count.” So two bars of music equals one 8-count. Counting is simple: listen for any count 1 to start, then count 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. Arcane Technical Info: Some dancers count tempo in measures per minute (MPM). Examine the music's time signature. impossible . For example, a whole note takes up a whole measure, while a half note takes up a half measure, and a quarter note takes up a quarter of a measure. nahh, I take that back; just stick with sets of 8. Music is mathematical and everything can be divided into even values. Learn how your comment data is processed. I like numbers, and I’m a good counter, so it was odd. It would have to be an exceptionally good and interesting intro to be longer than 16 bars and find its way onto a record or country line dance CD. If you don't understand these numbers, don't read this tidbit any further, it will drive you crazy. He predicted and caught all the big accents and breaks in the music with his hand motions—music he claimed he was not familiar with. What’s so important about counting the musical structure? I choose music that switches dynamics and will give them different steps for each dynamic. When your hands release and separate, they should hit the insides of your legs/knees. 423—456. I remember the first time I ever heard the structure of music counted, with the help of John, a stranger at a bar. QUICK PROMOTION: To help launch my new book on music, Hear the Beat, Feel the Music: Count, Clap and Tap Your Way to Remarkable Rhythm, the kindle is on sale for $2.99 (down from $4.99). I also call a set of 6 and a set of 8 a mini-phrase. For me as a beginner, counting music was hard to pin down because—well, because nobody ever told me how to do it. Not only is it rarely taught in a class, except for one situation (when a teacher counts you in to start a dance, discussed at the end of this chapter), it’s rarely heard in class. Music Placements. I found it interesting that teachers knew just where to start, but I figured that’s why they were the teachers—they had a gift—and I was the inept student. A 2-step move where you transfer the weight of one foot behind or by the other foot. A measure, a musical term, is a unit of time that counts virtually all dance music in groups of four beats. The point to note is that the count 1 has a stronger accent than the count 5, which will help you distinguish between the 1 and the 5. Is it possible that I had danced for years oblivious to the common structure in virtually all dance music? That all adds up to 32 beats in total to make up the entire phrase (4 X 8 = 32). “When the music tip toes, we tip toe! I believe part of the problem revolves around what is being counted. Finally, it answered one of the more troubling aspects of dance for me as a beginner: When, exactly, do I start a dance—when do I take the first step? For example, some waltz will have extra 3-beat mesures thrown in. Any club music and songs from the 80's would work. Multiply MPM by four to get beats per minute (BPM). To get started, spend time with a teacher or friend listening to a variety of music. Commonly, this involves verbally counting the beats in each measure as they occur, whether there be 2 beats, 3 beats, 4 beats, or even 5 beats. Invariably, the teacher will start the music and then count something like “ . You can listen to your own music collection; but also surf the radio dial and music websites that let you sample music, as listening to unfamiliar songs is an important part of the process. This is probably the only time you’ll hear music counted and you’ll usually hear just four to eight beats of it. Although they’re related, counting music and counting step patterns are not the same. This was a big event for me. Try to vary the tempos so that you can master this concept. All rights reserved. I’VE ALWAYS BEEN SUSPICIOUS OF THE COUNTING I HEARD IN DANCE CLASSES. Teachers always start a class dancing on a count 1 of the music. Starting on a count 1, have them count: “one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,” and start over. To the ear, a set of 8 or mini-phrase usually has a theme: a short piece of melody or harmony with a beginning and an ending. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! Place your hands between your knees. 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